Healing Through Art - How Our Emotions Affect Our Creativity (w/ Tanya Dailey)

Are you an Artist? Are you a Creative Being? WELL!

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Transcript

Niki: Welcome to this week's episode of the Mellon Muses Podcast!

Qua: here we talk about how our emotions and personal views can affect our artistic creative juices With our special guest muse Tanya Daley. 

Niki: Tanya is a self-taught misfit artist whose paintings invite viewers to interpret what they see in their own way, much like fighting shapes in the clouds on the warm spring day.

Tanya is a longtime nurse and a full-time wife and mother who's passionate about art, people, and life, and is determined to share that with the world. 

Niki: With that said, let's get started. Tanya. 

Qua: What's up girl? 

Tanya: Hi. Hello. Hello. So happy to be here. Thank you for having me. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you and talk about art and all things related, so thank you.

Niki: Of course. Now I know we, we just introduced you, we gave you like a snippet, a little taste of what you're about, but please share with our viewers more of like your personal story. Tell us about you, darling, and the fabulousness that we see here. So y'all, by the way, go to our YouTube channel and check out this woman.

She's absolutely gorgeous and fabulous. So just say it. But anyway, yes. Tell us about you, darling. 

Qua: Tell us your Journey. 

Tanya: Thank. Oh, thank you. Um, yes, I am a self-made artist, self-taught. I, I never had the privilege or the detriment of going to, to art school, depending on how you look at it. Um, I don't like people to tell me what to do, so , I didn't think that was the greatest path for me.

Right. So I went to nursing school and I've been a nurse for 27 years. Been married 28 years, have kids in the 24 year old. So, you know, been been around a while and dabbled in little bits of art, um, different things, playing with different mediums from a young age, but I never, never allowed myself to really take it, uh, for real, to really put time and effort into it, um, in a way that was personal to me until I moved to Florida and decided to take up painting.

Became an empty nester. My kids moved out, my husband and I, and our dog and I, I took up, um, painting because I was obsessed with Bob Ross and I wanted to try that. And I found very quickly that trying to paint things that look like things, it doesn't work that well for me. It's kind of like people telling me what to do, and it was, it was very hard for me to continue forward in that way.

I do it sometimes, but that's not the way I like to paint. I like to paint in a way that is free and allows my emotions to play out on the canvas, and it allows other people to interpret what I do in from their perspective. So I try to not name my paintings. I try not to tell people what to see in them.

I really very often just, um, play and then allow the shapes and forms to guide where I'm going. And then I just let people see what they see. And it's always fascinating to me, which is my favorite part. It's fascinating to me what other people see. 

Qua: It's actually interesting that you bring up, uh, the viewer's interpretation. Cause I went to a show, I think last summer, it was called Attack Theater, and it was these, it was like different art pieces that were all on the wall and the host would ask the crowd like, what do you see? What does this remind you of? And then they would write it down and then these dancers would come. And then they would interpret the dance of what that was called or what you said the painting looked like or what the art piece looked like.

And now I'm, I was pretty, uh, skeptical, so I was like, I dunno if I'm gonna like this, but I actually did at the end of it, I'm like, yeah, no, yes, please, yes. This is awesome. So, no, I actually do very much enjoy, uh, art like this too. Cuz again, art is, In the eyes of the holder. It can be whatever it wants to be and stuff.

You can make whatever you want it to be, so I love that. Would you say that, would you say that Bob Ross was your first introduction to art in, 

Tanya: In painting form? Uh, yes. Yes. I, I have. Dabbled in all kinds of things. So I was a quilter for a while. So there were some famous quilters that are only famous in quilting circles, that I had followed and interpreted.

And, um, one of the people that I followed in, in the quilting world, one of her famous things, was close enough is good enough, For me, that was one of the things that I, I carry forward, right? Because quilting, you know, and sewing in general, it's very precise and it, when you don't like rules and you don't like to conform and do the same thing all the time, that can be difficult.

So if you can find those little, those little rules, those little sayings, those little bits of freedom, That other people give you, it, it just kind of opened a, a world for me. I didn't have to be perfect at it. I just had to be close enough. Um, so that was probably my earliest, uh, it what I would call art because it really did open up a lot of art.

Um, and then Bob Ross became, yeah, a little bit of an obsession. I love Bob and I love all of his philosophies. I have his little day calendar on my desk and just enjoy. Everything that Bob Ross was about until I tried to, uh, to copy his stuff, which I have. I have done a couple of Bob Ross paintings and. He is a master. He is an absolute master. 

Qua: It's really challenging, isn't it? 

Tanya: It is. I too, have also grabbed my canvas and paints, not the paints that he has. He's like, this is emerald forest green. And I'm like, I only have grass green. What? What? Okay. Trying to draw the mountains and stuff, and I'm like, his mountains are so much better than I have, but like you said, uh, his philosophy, I actually do very much respect his philosophy where there are no mistakes, only happy accidents.

Exactly. You did a, you did a, you did like an extra brushstroke there. You drew something that probably shouldn't be over there. No, not probably. It should be over there. I'll do something with it. Figure it out. And I think even though he's telling you, teaching you how to paint, he's also trying to like let you know that hey, you can do whatever you want.

Actually, you can put your mountain over there if you want. You don't have to follow me. You can do exactly how you want. And I think people get that mixed up with, I have to paint it exactly the way that he's doing it. Otherwise it's not good. Yes, and that's not, that's not what this is about at all.

That's not what art is about at all. 

Tanya: Exactly.

Niki: Do you think that's a, like a rela, like a constant thing that people, uh, learn in art school? Cause I, I remember I took some classes for art. That's what I, I took in college for studio art and design and it was like, oh, that doesn't look like that. Or you have to be precise or this determining, oh, well that's not real art.

you know, I ha I got that so many times from teachers cause I, I'm also an artist for those who do not know. But my art style is more so comics in web tunes and illustrations. But when I was in college, my teacher would tell me, anime's not real art illustration's not real art. 

Qua: How dare they? That just made me so mad.

Tanya: Right, right. And having seen your art, oh no, no, no. That is so not even close to the truth.

Qua: Like, for real , I wish, I wish that art teacher could actually draw half the things this woman has drawn. 

Tanya: Exactly. Exactly. 

Niki: Do you think that's a common thing though, that like teachers are teaching? Like do you think that's hindering a lot of new artists and like younger artists nowadays, is the feeling of needing to be perfect in the first shocks?

I know that was something that I had trouble with. And to hear you say like as long as I'm close enough, that's good. That's enough. Do, do you feel like that gives you much more freedom to create the pieces you would love to do in comparison to the Oh, I have to draw. Was it the glass jar? Exactly as that glass jar?

Tanya: For me, that opened up everything. Yes. I have run into a lot of people who tell me they're not creative, they're not artistic, and it's because they want to create what someone else has created and they, they can't. And, and very often you can, uh, eventually, but I mean, you know, they, their work goes into that, but they wanna be just perfect right off.

And they wanna mimic those paintings, be Bob Ross. And when that doesn't happen, You, you, it's easy to get discouraged. It's easy to consider yourself. Not creative. Not artistic. And I think for me, letting go of that was the key. And I actually went on a couple of retreats and, and the first one was the, the major one that, that really opened my eyes because the first painting I did was blindfolded.

So yes, blindfold Painting literally opened my eyes to what painting can be because you just start from this place of nothing and you, you create. And I kept trying to create something and it just didn't work. And it wasn't until I really let go. Allowed the music and the emotions to really move through me and kept the blindfold on.

And it was that, that, that became magic, that painting when I was allowed to, when I allowed myself, right, when I allowed myself the permission to not care what it looked like, to just feel, feel, just.  and, and allow my hands. I literally finger painted onto the canvas and that was the painting that at the end of the retreat got the reaction.

That was the painting that moved people that moved me when I saw it, and we don't allow ourselves that permission to just feel and put it on a canvas, put it in clay. Who cares what it looks like, you know, if it doesn't turn out, paint over it, burn it. Who cares? It's the, it's the emoting, it's the putting those things onto the canvas, that's the important part.

And everything else kind of flows from there. You can take that, you can turn it over, look at it a different way. Do like I do and look like it's a cloud and what is that? Oh, ooh, I see a bird. And all of a sudden you take away everything that's not the bird and you have a bird that magically comes out of the canvas.

And the first time that I did that, it truly was a bird. It kind of looks like a tucan. And there's this person in the background. I did not paint those things. I painted my emotions and those things. Came out to me. I don't know. I don't, it's very hard to explain because, but it is very much like just laying on the grass and looking up at the clouds or those ink blot tests because, um, for example, and I don't have it behind me, but I have one painting that, um, I, when I did it, I thought it looked like a, a bursting flower like that has this gorgeous petals and it's just this beautiful thing.

When my husband saw it, Being a veteran, he actually saw a wound, he saw an, an explosion of, of, of some tragedy happening. And, and so it's things like that that really open your eyes to perspective and how much it can change what you're creating, which is why I don't like to name my paintings, because then it guides what you're thinking and it can take you away from your own emotions.

And, and, and you, you are then feeling.  and I really don't want that. I, yes, I want you to see my emotions, but I want you to feel your own emotions. When you see my paintings.

Qua: You want your paintings to be very selfless. 

Tanya: Yes. Yes. I do that. I never thought about it that way. 

Qua: Yeah, no. Cause, say, cause giving it a name and saying it's this, that is in itself some type of selfishness.

Now granted, that's not necessarily a bad thing and I don't want it to come off as a bad thing, right? But for what you want yours to be, you want yours to be free. Literally embody the, uh, the idea of freedom, man, like that, because I'm not gonna lie, I've been looking at your paintings in the background, and I'm like, what?

Is that ? That's the first thing that came, that came, that came to mind. And I was like, oh God, life. Nice.

Tanya: Ah, thank you. Thank you. That I, and I love the way you put that. Like that's like, I really love that you said that as well. Star. Uh, I had called you Star. Oh, Christ. 

Qua: that's ok, I still accept it. I still accept it.

Niki: You still accept it? Okay. So like I love that you more specifically touched upon the emotions aspect of it, because that's a dominant topic that we wanted to dive into. And I love that you said once you gave your permission to let go, that's what enabled you to actually fully immerse yourself within your art.

So would you be able to tell us more about. Which emotions affect your art the most, and how, like you navigate around that, like which prevents you from actually expressing yourself, what allows you to express yourself more? Or what type of paintings do you see a correlation between one particular emotion and the paintings that you create? Would you be able to go into more of that for us? 

Tanya: Yeah, absolutely. 

Niki: hat was a lot though, so we'll try to kind of pick apart what you were, sorry. 

Niki: Yeah, just, just , how the correlations between your art and your emotions and how did that affect you, break down. 

Tanya: Absolutely. Um. . So I, I think, you know, a lot of people know that it, his art through history, you know, people have painted from a place of pain.

Uh, van Gogh was one that painted from pain and, and did beautiful things. I have a lot more trouble painting from a place of pain when I am depressed. It's not something that comes easily to me. So in that, I think like a lot of people, I really struggle. But in the those cases, I'm gonna pick up something and show you.

When I, when I'm struggling and I can't handle a big canvas, my, it's just too much for me to even think about. I play a lot more. There we go. And I just do things like paint, pens and paper. This is just a canvas board, and again, it's just playing with. Colors, designs and textures and just trying to see what I can come up with.

But for me, this is completely like non-committal. There's nothing, this took me a couple of weeks actually of just picking it up when I had the energy to play. So this I thank you. But it's just this and me is just the, the playing. This is the permission. I'm just keep flipping it cuz you're, cuz you're turning your head.

But um, It's, this is what I always do in that I just give my permission, self permission to play. But this was just different in that I don't care what it looks like. Uh, it's not meant to be or turn out to be anything. It'll probably lay on a shelf somewhere until my kids find it when I'm gone. Um, and that's okay because the more you give yourself permission to do those things, the easier things become.

So when I am really. Not in a good place. And, and you know, we all get there. So when I'm not in a good place, um, it's limiting, right? You wanna create something beautiful, but you feel like you can't create anything beautiful because you're not feeling beautiful and it all just ties in. So in that time, I actually set myself up something that I plan to burn.

That's, that's my goal, that in my head, this is going on the burn pile. I am absolutely, this is garbage, but it's a blank canvas for me to play on, so I'm gonna throw all my emotions on it and, and then I'm gonna get rid of it. And that allows you to, Get rid of the emotions you don't want in a, in a very spiritual way also, because, you know, if I really, really don't want those things I am, I'm gonna symbolize them on the canvas and I'm gonna burn 'em and, you know, feel better.

Um, but it really just opens you up to. Give yourself permission to permission to fuck it up, because so much, so often we're tied to this has gotta look like this, right? But if you could just say, I'm gonna fuck this up on purpose. Because the more you fuck things up on purpose, the more you find your limits or the lack of limits, right?

You're pushing those boundaries because, If you're trying to make it right, you're always going to do the same thing. You're always gonna limit yourself. So if you just allow yourself to fuck it up. So when I'm down, that's the biggest thing for me is just, okay, what can I fuck up? Right? What, what can I, what can I put on this canvas then?

And I mean, I've created some atrocities. They're, they're bad. I like, but I've also created something that I've looked at and went, oh, that's really bad. And somebody else has looked at and went, wow, that's amazing. And it didn't end up on the burn pile because it meant something to somebody else. But just allowing myself that, I think that's the biggest thing for emotions.

But I paint better from a place of joy. You know, I, I feel it's more. 

Qua: I actually do like your process a lot actually. It's, it, I think it, I think it's, it's added that one thing that needs to be added for when, like, let's say you go to like therapy or someone and, and the, and the therapist is like, okay, think of all your, close your eyes, think of all your emotions and put it all in this imaginary basket.

Okay, now throw it away. That happened to my buddy and he said he did that and he said he felt so ridiculous cause he is like, it's not working. I think you added that physical aspect that it's like, no, it's like when it's like you said, when you can't properly explain something. So it's like when you say, oh, I can't really think of this.

So you go and write a journal and you get all your thoughts down on a piece of paper. You're manifesting, you're putting your words to to life. You're making them real. And I think that's what you're actually doing. You're getting all your emotions, you're making them real, you're putting them on something and then you're physically burning it.

Unless someone's like, whoa, wait, I'll take it from you. Here's 20 bucks. Like, you know. But no, I actually like that process a lot. That was awesome. 

Niki: Yes. And like I love the concept of burning it. It reminds me of those, um, break rooms. You know, when you go and you just purposely like use a, a bat or something and you break glass.

I've never done it yet, but I wanna do it. Uh, but that's what it reminds me of, uh, having that, like Qua was saying as well, having that physical representation of your emotions can help you process it a lot more. And that's something that really resonated with me as well. I still have a little bit of that perfectionism stuck in my head when it comes to art.

I'm like, oh, this doesn't really look as good as this other person who's been drawing every day for like 30 years. Oh my gosh. And it's trying not to compare yourself to other people's journeys and learning how to just compare yourself to yourself of how much you've grown, how much you've changed over the years.

And I'm curious to know if you ever felt fear when it came to producing your work, and how did you get yourself through that and process through that fear of like, I want to paint, I wanna express myself, but the emotions are just so strong. How do I allow them out, go through my hands and get onto this canvas without running away?

Like, have you ever experienced that? 

Qua: Now hold that thought. We will be right back after these messages. 

Tanya: Oh yeah. Uh, fear. Fear is huge. Fear, fear holds us back so much, and, and I, I don't, I don't know, um, that I have a miraculous way except music. Music for me is, is the, the thing I, I actually have a playlist and, and I, I recommend everybody does this.

If you, if you have songs that, that move you to creativity, make a playlist so that when you play that playlist, it snaps your creativity on. There are certain I, when I hear that first song that's on my playlist, I am immediately. Inclined to create because I've just, it's like Pavlov's dog. I've trained myself to do that, and I have a, I have a very weird playlist.

I'll just put it that way. But it, it makes me feel powerful and it gets me outta the emotions that I can't feel like I paint through, uh, or I can't. Paint through easily. You know, there, there are emotions that feel like they get stopped up in your body, which I love that you said Qua about that, you know, cause to me that is a huge part of therapy and, and, uh, mindset work and meditation.

I'm, I'm not the person that just can sit and say, um, and, and, and not, you know, and I have to move. So my meditations involve movement. And you might notice I talk with my hands, uh, because I can't stop it. It just, it, so it has to involve the body. So this is why it works so well for me. Um, and I think adding that musical element to it is the, the, the key.

When I'm stuck, when it just, whatever, whatever. And I, lemme, I'm gonna show you, lemme see if you can see. So this painting behind me of this, um, gorgeous goddess that's at the top there with the silver. So this one, um, That it's, it's hard to explain how I paint sometimes. The silver part. That actually was intentional.

That was from a dream, a recurring dream I had when I was a child, a recurring nightmare actually. And I wanted, it came up in a meditation, in a movement meditation, and it, it, it popped back into my head and I just, I had to paint it. I mean, I felt compelled I had to paint it, but then once I put it on the canvas on this black background, it really just, I didn't know where to go with.

Which is what happens a lot of times in art. I get stuck and you know what? What do you do when you intend to paint something and it's not quite working the way you want, or you don't know where to go with it, you know? So I did what I always do. I turned on some music. I actually flattened this out, and I used my paintbrush as a drumstick kind of.

It was very, you know, just, just all these weird. Um, squiggles, that's all I did was orange squiggles, which had no relation or correlation to this silver, I mean, literally had no, none. And when I looked at it, I saw this beautiful profile just pop out and I took out everything that wasn't that profile and this beautiful goddess, um, just, just showed up and so the painting became something else.

and the fear of this . The, the way this came in is, I love this, I love this painting. I sit and I stare at it at night. It's so, it's why it's still on my easel is cuz I love it. And, but when I got to the point of not knowing how to finish it, literally like finish it with the varnish, I froze. I didn't know where, how to go forward.

And then I finally took steps to go forward and I did what I feared and I fucked it up. Like this part of this painting that, I don't know if you can see, but it's th this painting is very cloudy because my varnish is messed up. And I tried to take part of the varnish off and I took part of the paint off.

And so I have a real fear of finishing this painting cuz I don't really know where to go with it. And I know. I will get there. So I don't fear that I won't ever get there, but it's, it's hard to take those steps because you don't wanna mess it up. So even though I have this process of, this is how I paint, so I don't feel those things, I still end up feeling those things at some point, you know? So it's natural. 

Qua: Can I tell you what my first interpretations were when I looked at it? When we started this interview? 

Tanya: Yes. 

Qua: So, and it actually made sense the more you started to explain how you actually started painting it. I was thinking that, uh, the background, the black, the silver, the gray, the dots, that was making me think of space that was making me think of, uh, different dimensions, especially with the silver line.

that's cutting right through and uh, and her eyes being closed. I think that was making me think of her closing herself off to the universe and being trapped within your own mind. And that itself is a nightmare. And when you said nightmare, I was like, haha. Alright. And then, and all she needs to do is just open her eyes and then the possibilities are endless.

You can see anywhere, you can see everything, you can go anywhere you want. And that's where I'm like, when you say that, you know how to finish it. I think that's the whole point of that. It doesn't need to be finished. That's the whole point of the background. It's a universe. It's unending, there's no end to space.

There's no end to the void. Yeah. You have to keep going. That's your journey. The journey is always gonna keep going. Like when you die, now it's your spirit. Now you're getting outta your spirit. Gotta figure out what the, what, like what the heck it's gonna do. It's gonna start itch journey. And man, that was the, that's what I was getting from it. Cause I like that one a lot. That was really cool. 

Niki: Yo Qua, that was deep . That that was, that was amazing. That was a very amazing interpretation and..

Qua: We get deep here on the Melon Muses podcast. 

Niki: Don't make that sound so dirty. 

Qua: Oh, oh. Was that, was that how it went? Whoops. 

Niki: It's not that type of podcast, Qua!

Qua: Sorry, sorry, I didn't think, sorry. We are not an ASMR podcast. I'm sorry. 

Tanya: I'm loving it. I'm, I love every bit of it. 

Niki: Oh my gosh. So on a, on a more, uh, child-friendly note, uh, for those of you who are, uh, listening via, like anywhere where you're actually just listening to the audio of this podcast, please just.

Please take a moment. Check out the YouTube channel in Melanin Muses podcast on YouTube. See this episode on screen so you can check out this woman's absolutely gorgeous paintings like I can't help but just staring at them through this entire interview. So if you see me like kind of looking off to the side, I'm actually looking at the computer.

And staring at her paintings this entire time. So please go on and check out these paintings cuz they're gorgeous and just trying to describe them au like audibly is just not enough. And I gotta say I'm really taken on that note, I'm really taken by not only that top painting, Qua explained enough of that cause like he was so accurate with that.

I love that. The bottom on to my right, the one with like the. Kinda like a pink galaxy to me. I find that to be so astounding. Like, please, if you can tell us a little bit more about that. Like the colors in that. The cool colors for those of, you know, my cool colors, like the purples, the pinks, the reds. So please tell us more about that.

Tanya: Uh, you're, you're talking about this, this one right here, correct? Yeah. Well, you wanted to be family friendly. That's probably not the painting we wanna talk about. 

Qua: I knew! Knew it! I knew it! I was trying to be, I was trying to be pg. That's why I said life. Um, gosh. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Well, you know . Yes. Okay. Well, I thought so.

Niki: I was like, oh, that it's either one or two things. It's either, uh, like it reminds me of like a dragon's eye and a whole bunch of other fantasy stuff, and I was like, or it could be, um, the very sacred place that you and I have and clay were missing. So sucks for you. Yeah. Yes, yes.

Tanya:  Oh and thats my dog, apologies.

He's, he is whining. He wants out, but, Yes. You, you, um, well, I was gonna say nailed it, but, well, I'll say it anyway. There we go. We'll just go on with that same theme. So, yes, uh, you nailed it. That is definitely what that was. . Uh, yeah, 

Qua: We get, we get art. We get art guys. Yes. See, that's it. That's it. We have a connection.

Tanya: Mm-hmm. , I, I, I have to say, and, and this is not too, I don't wanna take this in this direction. This, this was actually, I created this, uh, this summer after a, a landmark SCOTUS decision. So it was, it was really speaking to me. And, and actually I will mention that, that the idea of this, I don't know if you could see it, but there's sort of like, um, people that kind of like, they're, they're sort of figures down at the.

Yeah. And for those of you just listening, it's a, it's a very large depiction of a yoi. It has some gold leafing. It's very, it's very beautiful to me. It's, uh, I think it's beautiful. Um, but it's sort of like up in the air and, and all of these people are sort of milling around and they're really not paying much attention to it.

But the fact that it is, to me, it's sort of like up on a ped. And being ignored and, and it had sort of a social feel. So this is one of those times that I will share with you what I see . So, and that's kind of how it, it, it in interpreted in my mind. Um, yeah, I did have that start thought that I just, I just felt like painting the, the feminine energy and so it, that's how it, it, it kind of came.

Um,  and then the rest sort of happened. Love. Well, you said love so much is Wow. Yeah. 


Qua: That's needle on the head and that makes the bottom part of that painting even more terrifying. Especially when you said the pedestal part and Kendrick la and Kendrick Lamar's Lyric came up and I'm like, uh, d he, but yeah, I would say, what lyric is that?

Put that redacted on a pedestal. 

Tanya: Oh, okay. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. Yes, yes. See? Um, yeah, so, uh, once in a while these, these, actually, these two paintings are actually a little less of what I normally do. It's kind of funny. And they're, they're, they're slightly a combination of the two. And then I did have something in mind when I started, um, let's see.

Forget, ah,  fall over, trying to scoot to the side. So that one. Is actually, there we go. Okay. Is, um, just, just an interpretive painting that was just, and it's got a lot of gold in it. It's got a lot of texture and I thought it was just, it's just fun. I don't, I don't really, I don't really know that, to me it has a lot of meaning.

Qua: It's just, I just love the, the colors and the movement. I really like this one. For some reason I saw an armored ant eater, and then I saw a wave. But then I feel like I'm looking into like, you know when like you go deep sea diving and you can grab like coral, I feel like I'm looking into like the insides of like a coral reef and stuff, you know?

Yeah. Oh, look at that. These are great guys. Again, to see these paintings, please check out our YouTube channel because. Tanya is one hell of an artist and literally any of these can be up for interpretation and those are just mine. So please don't go off mine. Please have your own opinions on this.

Niki: Tanya Oh my god, this has been so much fun and I really appreciate you taking the time to come share your. Energy to share your experiences with our audience, especially to the fellow creatives cuz all of us are creatives and it just really, it really meant a lot. So thank you so much for coming. And is there any last tips or advice that you would like to share with our audience?

And also, where can I find you? Cuz I'm sure people are gonna wanna stalk you after this and any promotional stuff. 

Tanya: Well, thank you. And, and it's been amazing. Thank you so much for having me. You guys are awesome. I love talking to fellow creatives who, who get it. Um, not that everybody can't or doesn't, but, you know, it's just, I think we have a special language.

So I, I've, this has been awesome. Thank you. Um, and as far as finding me, you can find me@tanyadailyart.com. It's very simple. Just my name. Um, my company name is Misfit Art, just for fun, but, Probably won't find anything that way, and you can find me on Instagram and Facebook at Tanya Daley. Art. Uh, also, and best thing I can recommend to everyone, and I, I think I've said this probably a dozen times already, but just have fun.

Let let go of the expectations of creating something.  and, and just have fun with it because that's, that's where the freedom comes in. That's where you push those boundaries and where the magic happens. That's the biggest piece of advice I can give anybody. 

Niki: I love that so, so, so much. Well, and Qua, anything you wanna say, Qua?

Qua: Uh, I like to say to everyone that remember, you can manifest anything you want to. Literally, the world is in the palm of your hand. As cheesy as that is, we truly have more power than you realize. Also, Tanya, if you don't know this artist already, this musician, uh, her name is Orion's son. Have you heard of her?

Tanya: No, I have not.

Qua:  she has a beautiful voice and I listen to her in my, uh, silk playlist, uh, silk cuz I, it's soft and it's chill, so it allows you for interpretations, my song that I actually love of her, it's actually very short. It's called Mirage and it's actually every time it comes on in my car, I like zone out.

And I always think of like a very abstract. Uh, background of like an environment. It's very nice. So yes, I hope that you give her a listen cuz her other songs are also fantastic, but I love it cuz she has a, a very chill and relaxing sound. So yeah, when you're talking about music this way, it made me think of that.

But also our listeners, please check out Orion's son. She has a beautiful voice. She is a beautiful muse, but yes, manifest what you want, y'all, you can do. Any remarks, Nikki?

Niki: Oh, well, number one, again, thank you for coming. Thank you for your, also your feedback way on everything that we've heard and learned here so far.

As for my advice to those listening, and as someone who's still going through their artistic journey, remember nothing's perfect. Art is subjective. Allow yourself to feel and explore and just let go. Because once you step into that fear, once you learn to embrace it and understand that you don't have to be perfect in everything, you just have to put your heart into it, then it'll be a lot easier.

And, um, art can really be healing. So if you are struggling with finding something that's meaningful to. Go to the dollar store, cheap brushes, cheap paint. Doesn't have to be super expensive. Just let it go. Draw some lines on it, hang it up, or burn it as Tanya was talking about earlier, and just try to get your emotions out on the page and trust me.

That's, it's gonna open up a world of difference for you. So give it a shot. And on that note, guys, we have had such a lovely episode this week, so thank you. Thank you so much for joining us for today's episode of the Mel Ninjas podcast. 

Qua: To hear more, please subscribe and follow our podcast wherever you listen to our podcast.

Niki: And be sure to check us out on our Instagram as well for. Fun photos and videos, like snippets of our podcast, as well as our official YouTube channel. Again, to check out this woman's amazing work. So give us a like, give us a follow and we shall see you next week. This is Nikki b. Signing off. 

Qua: This is Jaqua, signing off.

Tanya: Thank you so much for having me. This is Tanya signing off also. 

All: Bye, peace. Bye.